Trans Prob Solved -Shift drum bracket installed upside down

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:25 pm

That part MUST be installed with the shift fork guide pins removed so the forks can move along the drum.
Yes you must split the cases. ................lm

sdaigle240 wrote:The bracket was indeed installed upside down but I can't for the life of me figure out how you would get the bracket on correctly without doing it during case assembly. The internal shift fork appears to be bolted to the drum so I cannot pull the drum far enough out to slip the bracket into the collar. If it is that it needs to be installed during assembly of the case do you think I could just cut the bracket in half and install it as two pieces? Seems reasonable given its function.

rrietman · Post by **rrietman** » Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:06 pm

what a shame, but Ed is right. that drum/retainer is one of the first things to go in. do it right, tear it down. your retainer ring is showing some wear from rubbing etc, so get another one. LOCKTITE those 6mm screws. they can back out and cause the same symptoms all over again.
good luck
Randy

sdaigle240 · Post by **sdaigle240** » Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:36 pm

Thank you LM & Randy. Could one of you gentlemen be so kind as to explain to me how this plates incorrect installation is preventing the shifter form working correctly? I am sitting here looking at this plate upside down and don't see what is getting In the way preventing it from toggling to the next detent. Your input is greatly appreciated gentlemen, thanks. -Steve

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:43 pm

Take it out and look at the contact area it shows.
It's ONLY the inside corners and that will not align the part to the drum as it is designed and will cause LOTS OF DRAG.
When installed correct6ly the part installs full contact in the groove in the drum.
If you want to ride the bike you WILL NEED TO SPLIT THE CASES. .............lm

sdaigle240 wrote:Thank you LM & Randy. Could one of you gentlemen be so kind as to explain to me how this plates incorrect installation is preventing the shifter form working correctly? I am sitting here looking at this plate (installed wrong) and don't see what is getting In the way and preventing it from toggling to the next detent. Your input is greatly appreciated gentlemen, thanks. -Steve

mike in idaho · Post by **mike in idaho** » Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:36 pm

Just for the heck of it, pull the right side crankcase cover and check out the neutral switch. It sits close to the front sprocket and can be easily dinged by a foreign object(or a broken chain). If it gets dented it can bind up the shift drum from turning freely.

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:32 pm

Come on now!
That incorrectly installed part is/was a problem.
If anything would do as you suggest I can only imagine what the neutral switch would look like.
Fact are that!
To install thaqt part requires spliting the cases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. ...............LM

mike in idaho wrote:Just for the heck of it, pull the right side crankcase cover and check out the neutral switch. It sits close to the front sprocket and can be easily dinged by a foreign object(or a broken chain). If it gets dented it can bind up the shift drum from turning freely.

48lesco · Post by **48lesco** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:31 am

The wheel won't go all the way into the depression in the shift drum. The arm behind the wheel contacts the part that is installed upside-down. I agree there's no way to put it on right-side up without splitting the cases. I guess you could get creative with the arm/wheel assembly to prevent that interference but I think I would just split the cases and do it right...

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Trans Prob Solved -Shift drum bracket installed upside down