Hard shifting 2nd and up

[bonjour]

Hi folks,

The CB77 is almost finished now and I made a small voyage on it (first ride yeah!).
But there where, of course, some problems.

Especially with shifting into 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.

1st gear is no problem at all, 'click' and it's in as you would expect, neutral, no problem, small tap up, and done, as you would also expect.
But then, 2nd gear, it's really really a 'not done' not with your foot, almost impossible.
With my hand/arm , and can barely yank it in. Something really aint right here.

I tested on the main-standard, when in 1st , wheel spinning, I pull the clutch, and try to shift it in 2nd with my hand. When I almost levered it enough to engage into 2nd (you really have to pull) , I can hear a rattling noize, that it want to grab it into second gear.

So basically, I can get it into 2nd gear, but really at the very-end of the 'shift lever upward movement' . Something you cannot do with you foot, because it's way to heavy to do it with your foot.

So my guess is, that something is out of line, that the shift axle-rod need to turn a few degree's.

But, I really don't know if that's possible or easy to do (I would say it is, but I don't know yet) and, if that is my problem.

Further it's shifts pretty good, when I managed to get into forth, shifting back was no problem end went really smooth, just 'tap' it back. As you would expect.

But shifting upward (to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th) is almost impossible to do because it only shift's at the very end of the 'upward movement' really have to use waaayyy to much force to get it right.
So something is wrong, I hope you guys can tell me what to check, and what's probably the cause.

My guess would be that the shift-axle-rod is a few degree's off, but again, im just guessing, I don't know, and I don't know exactly how these mighty engine's work. (yet :P)

Thanks all !

[LOUD MOUSE]

My bet is the GEAR CHANGE ARM (attached to the GEAR SHIFT SPINDLE) IS NOT INSTALLED at 11:00 o'clock.
If not it will limit the forward travel of the LINKAGE and do as ya describe. ..........lm

Hi folks,

The CB77 is almost finished now and I made a small voyage on it (first ride yeah!).
But there where, of course, some problems.

Especially with shifting into 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.

1st gear is no problem at all, 'click' and it's in as you would expect, neutral, no problem, small tap up, and done, as you would also expect.
But then, 2nd gear, it's really really a 'not done' not with your foot, almost impossible.
With my hand/arm , and can barely yank it in. Something really aint right here.

I tested on the main-standard, when in 1st , wheel spinning, I pull the clutch, and try to shift it in 2nd with my hand. When I almost levered it enough to engage into 2nd (you really have to pull) , I can hear a rattling noize, that it want to grab it into second gear.

So basically, I can get it into 2nd gear, but really at the very-end of the 'shift lever upward movement' . Something you cannot do with you foot, because it's way to heavy to do it with your foot.

So my guess is, that something is out of line, that the shift axle-rod need to turn a few degree's.

But, I really don't know if that's possible or easy to do (I would say it is, but I don't know yet) and, if that is my problem.

Further it's shifts pretty good, when I managed to get into forth, shifting back was no problem end went really smooth, just 'tap' it back. As you would expect.

But shifting upward (to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th) is almost impossible to do because it only shift's at the very end of the 'upward movement' really have to use waaayyy to much force to get it right.
So something is wrong, I hope you guys can tell me what to check, and what's probably the cause.

My guess would be that the shift-axle-rod is a few degree's off, but again, im just guessing, I don't know, and I don't know exactly how these mighty engine's work. (yet :P)

Thanks all !

[bonjour]

Thanks LM, I also suspect that's the case.

So, just remove the left motor cover, and then I will find my way, right ?

[teazer]

I think LM is referring to the external shift part in relation to the shaft. If the short arm is not at the correct angle, parts bind and restrict movement.

With the bike in the shop not running, get down low and pull the lever up with your hand while you look at the linkage. Look for the linkage parts running out of clearance.

The fix is probably to remove the arm and rotate one or two splines further.

[bonjour]

Ah... I see.

So 'just' need to 11 o'clock number 17 then ?

http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb77-general ... t/E09.html

I thought that I needed to adjust number 10 and/or 11.

But, indeed, youre probably right, sound logical yes indeed :)

[LOUD MOUSE]

That's the part.
Ya will need to adjust the rod so the foot lever is where ya are comfortable with it. ................lm

Ah... I see.

So 'just' need to 11 o'clock number 17 then ?

http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb77-general ... t/E09.html

I thought that I needed to adjust number 10 and/or 11.

But, indeed, youre probably right, sound logical yes indeed :)

[bonjour]

Thanks guys, I feel so embarrassed now. That I didn't thought about that.

I guess I lack a little bit of experience on these machine's (and the indirect shifting is also new to me) .

My garage is a few kilometers away, it's evening now here in Holland, so I let you guys know tomorrow !

But I have faith now, indeed, when I check other CB72/77's on the internet, indeed, they are all set on 11 o'clock'ish.

My is at 12 o'clock.

Thanks guys, awesome !