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aftermarket vs NOS brake shoes?

OldStan
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aftermarket vs NOS brake shoes?

Post by OldStan » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:47 pm

I'm looking into brake shoes for my Dream. I see Ohio Cycle has NOS but also Vesrah and Nikko aftermarket. Does anyone have any thoughts on one versus the other? I know in other applications there were problems in the braking quality with non-asbestos lining, but my experience with that was 20 years ago. Since Dreams don't have the best brakes to start with thought I'd ask.
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Post by MBellRacing » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:47 am

I just ordered some Vesrah's for my CB77. Heard a lot of good things about them.

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Post by OldStan » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:50 pm

Thanks for the response. Think I'll go the Vesrah route. The fronts seem to be available from more sources than the rear for the dreams, and both cheaper than NOS. Not that I'm "thrifty" or anything like that. :)
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Post by jensen » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:00 am

Hi,

Originals are made from asbestos, not good with the knowledge today.
And NOS brake shoes are old too, these shoes loose their properties more or less.

Another way to go is to line up (?) the old shoes with modern material, so you have a choice in what you want from the friction material.

I did this with the front brake shoes of my CB450, not becuase the brake shoes were worn, but old.
The new material is a day / night difference in behavior with the original ones.

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:53 am

Hello Jensen.
I took several shoes to a brake business to have them renewed.
I was told the heat required to remove the old material would ruin/destroy the aluminum.
Do have a place with a way to remove the friction area?. ........lm

jensen wrote:Hi,

Originals are made from asbestos, not good with the knowledge today.
And NOS brake shoes are old too, these shoes loose their properties more or less.

Another way to go is to line up (?) the old shoes with modern material, so you have a choice in what you want from the friction material.

I did this with the front brake shoes of my CB450, not becuase the brake shoes were worn, but old.
The new material is a day / night difference in behavior with the original ones.

Jensen

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Post by OldStan » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:15 am

Jensen- Valid point on the asbestos. Brake materials have come a long way since the use of asbestos was first outlawed here. What material did you use? I would imagine something too agressive could cause damage to the drum.

lm- I talked to a brake shop here and they said they could do them (told them the shoes were aluminum.) I'll have to question them farther before I have anything done. They told me it would cost "about" $20 per shoe, which isn't too bad. I didn't, however, discuss the type of lining.
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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:20 am

I showed the shop the shoes and they wouldn't try as they had problems previously.
Let us know what ya find at your end. .........lm


OldStan wrote:Jensen- Valid point on the asbestos. Brake materials have come a long way since the use of asbestos was first outlawed here. What material did you use? I would imagine something too agressive could cause damage to the drum.

lm- I talked to a brake shop here and they said they could do them (told them the shoes were aluminum.) I'll have to question them farther before I have anything done. They told me it would cost "about" $20 per shoe, which isn't too bad. I didn't, however, discuss the type of lining.

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