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[jensen]

Hi LM,

First of all, feller doesn't sound nice to me, and that's your intension. I don't understand why you talk to me like that. I don't like people doing rude or mean to me, as I will give response to it, again and again.

I didn't quote you, I didn't ask for your opinion, I wasn't asking for your response, so why responding on this thread directly to me ? If I needed your opinion I would ask for it, politely. Now, we are confronted again, that's not nice to other forum members, that's why I didn't react on your mails anymore, just to avoid you, so collisions were not possible anymore.

I described my72 '67 bikes and parts, no assumptions made, no research on the net as you suggested, just looking to my own stuff. The European versions were the first versions, and the standard were all CB77 should be measured toward.

If someone describes the CB72's with gathering info on the net, it's Steve, and he's doing a good job, by the way.

The information I put on the forum is mainly based on my knowledge about the CB72's I gathered and own. This info differs once in a while from the info on the forum, which is mainly based on CB77's because this is an American forum. (90% (or more) people on the forum are US citizens). The American market was a big market for a CB77, and the CB72 is relative unknown by Americans, see your own (amazed) comment on the find at Jerry's. You were amazed that it was a CB72, but only in the US the CB72 is relative unknown.

You were amazed because you're an American, and probably for the first time you're confronted with facts that were already known to some of the rest of the world. Your knowledge is based on what you find in the US, so CB77's, but the world is bigger than the US, so you found out now, at last.

The information in Bill's bible's about the CB72's is absolutely not complete, and reveal some errors, especially when it comes to the very early and the very late bikes. The developments on the CB72 were leading compared to the mass production of the CB77.

The CB72 set the standard in 1960, the CB77 was introduced as a copy of the CB72, with just a bigger cylinder, pistons and a different cylinder head (American market wanted a bigger bike). The CB72 survived the CB77, because it is produced until 1968, the CB77 was taken out of production before that. Look at the parts numbers, 268 is in the lead, just a few specific 275 p/n can be found in a parts manual, that fact alone shows the complete unimportance of the CB77 in history of development. So, if you want to learn something about the CB77's you have to study the father of it, and that's the CB72. The CB72 is a better balanced bike as the CB77 is, a CB72 is less vibrating, and almost as fast as the CB77, in spite the extra cc's.

The CB series were developed as a 250 bike (Japanese standard), all technical varieties were probed on the CB72, not on the CB77, that's why there are so many small technical differences on the CB72 's, that's why I'm into CB72 and not into CB77. The CB77 is of no importance when it comes to technical development, because all the developments were there much earlier on the CB72.

I really would appreciate, and like you suggested earlier, to avoid collisions, not to respond directly to me, as I didn't respond directly to you in the near past. I gave Steve some info on my CB72's, not to you directly, and apparently, there's still a lot to learn about the very early CB72's and the very late ones too. I appreciate the work of Steve and others, and provided info, as much as I can, it is important to have this knowledge put on the forum. Me, myself, have interest in the very early CB72's, and that's for two reasons, first of all, I'm building an early CB72'61, and secondly, I have a bunch of very early CB72 parts, parts from before 1961. I'm still in the learning process, and because there are some gapes in the info, I'm not writing about my progress until I know (and be sure) about all the facts (or as much as possible).

Apparently it's not possible to do this work together with forum members like you, who, for some reason, find new information a reason to go into denial, and a reason for defensive and offensive behavior.

Having an open mind and being curios is the only way to learn new things,

Jensen

[cknight]

Hi Jensen, what is meant by "multiple indicator bulbs"? Something more than the headlight high beam indicator light is integral to the the speedo/tacho? Regards, Chase

[cknight]

Hi Jensen, what is meant by "multiple indicator bulbs"? Something more than the headlight high beam indicator light is integral to the the speedo/tacho? Regards, Chase

[LOUD MOUSE]

"well now feller" means something you seem to misunderstand.
I always enjoy calls from my friend in AU with his opening sentence to me "well how ya doing young feller".
Ya are the one who "when not understanding the statement" went ballistic.
Ya got a quick trigger there feller?
I for one read and enjoy your comments and information and with the last message can see how fragile/sensitive ya can be at times.
Once again ya have assumed oh so many things about these HONDA bikes.
We did get the 72 before the 77 and chose to buy the 77 as the difference in cost was $60.00 on average and the bike was faster also here in the US we are not encumbered with a "CC" or "Horse Power" limit to get a license. (myth here in the US is some European nations have regulations we don't have to get a license)
Thanks for informing us as to the 268 and 275 HONDA parts numbering system.
My surprise with that bike was the numbers and year of issue as it was 9XXX in normal (considered by most to be sort of 1XXXXXXX to 1XXXXXX) numbering sequence.
Seems 1965 production number start at 1000001 and ended at 1010925 at total production of 10925 over 3 years.
With no HONDA year of termination of production of any of these bikes in those 3 years I found there before me an example of a bike which shows the 72 was issued to 1967 not terminated earlier and I shared what I found.
Ya say 1968. (proof)
I figured ya would be interested there feller.
BTW. What I send through this list is to all members and I leave open to discussion as I for know that at times I can get things wrong.
"Good Day feller". ...........lm

Hi LM,

First of all, feller doesn't sound nice to me, and that's your intension. I don't understand why you talk to me like that. I don't like people doing rude or mean to me, as I will give response to it, again and again.

I didn't quote you, I didn't ask for your opinion, I wasn't asking for your response, so why responding on this thread directly to me ? If I needed your opinion I would ask for it, politely. Now, we are confronted again, that's not nice to other forum members, that's why I didn't react on your mails anymore, just to avoid you, so collisions were not possible anymore.

I described my72 '67 bikes and parts, no assumptions made, no research on the net as you suggested, just looking to my own stuff. The European versions were the first versions, and the standard were all CB77 should be measured toward.

If someone describes the CB72's with gathering info on the net, it's Steve, and he's doing a good job, by the way.

The information I put on the forum is mainly based on my knowledge about the CB72's I gathered and own. This info differs once in a while from the info on the forum, which is mainly based on CB77's because this is an American forum. (90% (or more) people on the forum are US citizens). The American market was a big market for a CB77, and the CB72 is relative unknown by Americans, see your own (amazed) comment on the find at Jerry's. You were amazed that it was a CB72, but only in the US the CB72 is relative unknown.

You were amazed because you're an American, and probably for the first time you're confronted with facts that were already known to some of the rest of the world. Your knowledge is based on what you find in the US, so CB77's, but the world is bigger than the US, so you found out now, at last.

The information in Bill's bible's about the CB72's is absolutely not complete, and reveal some errors, especially when it comes to the very early and the very late bikes. The developments on the CB72 were leading compared to the mass production of the CB77.

The CB72 set the standard in 1960, the CB77 was introduced as a copy of the CB72, with just a bigger cylinder, pistons and a different cylinder head (American market wanted a bigger bike). The CB72 survived the CB77, because it is produced until 1968, the CB77 was taken out of production before that. Look at the parts numbers, 268 is in the lead, just a few specific 275 p/n can be found in a parts manual, that fact alone shows the complete unimportance of the CB77 in history of development. So, if you want to learn something about the CB77's you have to study the father of it, and that's the CB72. The CB72 is a better balanced bike as the CB77 is, a CB72 is less vibrating, and almost as fast as the CB77, in spite the extra cc's.

The CB series were developed as a 250 bike (Japanese standard), all technical varieties were probed on the CB72, not on the CB77, that's why there are so many small technical differences on the CB72 's, that's why I'm into CB72 and not into CB77. The CB77 is of no importance when it comes to technical development, because all the developments were there much earlier on the CB72.

I really would appreciate, and like you suggested earlier, to avoid collisions, not to respond directly to me, as I didn't respond directly to you in the near past. I gave Steve some info on my CB72's, not to you directly, and apparently, there's still a lot to learn about the very early CB72's and the very late ones too. I appreciate the work of Steve and others, and provided info, as much as I can, it is important to have this knowledge put on the forum. Me, myself, have interest in the very early CB72's, and that's for two reasons, first of all, I'm building an early CB72'61, and secondly, I have a bunch of very early CB72 parts, parts from before 1961. I'm still in the learning process, and because there are some gapes in the info, I'm not writing about my progress until I know (and be sure) about all the facts (or as much as possible).

Apparently it's not possible to do this work together with forum members like you, who, for some reason, find new information a reason to go into denial, and a reason for defensive and offensive behavior.

Having an open mind and being curios is the only way to learn new things,

Jensen

[jensen]

Hi,

Winker indicator bulb, and the special relay with the 18W*2 + 3W Watt added to the winker relay.
The extra 3W is for the indicator bulb, and goes with the later style relay winker clamp (diameters are a little different).

Jensen

[LOUD MOUSE]

Any pics and year of production ya can share?. ......lm

Hi,

Winker indicator bulb, and the special relay with the 18W*2 + 3W Watt added to the winker relay.
The extra 3W is for the indicator bulb, and goes with the later style relay winker clamp (diameters are a little different).

Jensen

[jensen]

Hi LM,

You used that same sentence in another thread, and that wasn't nicely meant (HE LISTEN FELLER, instead you forgot), I learn quick.

If you were commenting with some respect, I would do the same thing.

Hi, or Hi Jensen, or Hi J-man are starters I can't misinterpret.

jensen