VIN and Photo

66scrambler · Post by **66scrambler** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:45 am

Good morning.

WAIT! Before you start wrenching today...

Just picked up a scrambler at the Rhinebeck swap meet but I can't tell the year... nor can I find a decent authentic photo of what this bike looked like new. I've attached my VIN in hopes that someone can tell me the year and direct me to a photo. To me, the VIN looks like:

CL77E-one-zero-five-four-seven-nine-eight

Any help would be great appreciated...have a great day.

C

66scrambler · Post by **66scrambler** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:37 am

Does anybody have a way to decode the vintage Honda VIN/Serial numbers?

Any help is appreciated.

C

G-Man · Post by **G-Man** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:55 pm

Probably '66/67

Big, dual leading shoe, brakes? 7 digit serial numbers came in in 1964 and ran to the end of production in a continuous run.

http://sinlesscycles.com/index.php/past ... -scrambler

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66scrambler wrote:Does anybody have a way to decode the vintage Honda VIN/Serial numbers?

Any help is appreciated.

C

Hoosier Tom · Post by **Hoosier Tom** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:34 pm

The number you gave is the engine number. Honda stamped both the frames and engines. As a general rule they don't match, and can be off as much as 200-300 digits and can be considered a born with engine to frame. The true VIN as intended by the factory would be the frame stamping, which is located on the left side of the steering tube/neck of the frame. It is not uncommon to have an engine from another year swapped into a 50+ year old frame. If your engine has been changed out, It can't be ascertained what year your bike is without more information.

HT

66scrambler · Post by **66scrambler** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:48 pm

Thank you both for the info. GMan, that's the photo I was looking for. Red frame with non-slotted chain guard, but my fenders are steel.

HT, my frame number is about 120 digits earlier than the engine.

G-Man · Post by **G-Man** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:40 am

Pretty sure that all 'big brake' CL77s had steel fenders. The one in the picture does.

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66scrambler wrote:Thank you both for the info. GMan, that's the photo I was looking for. Red frame with non-slotted chain guard, but my fenders are steel.

HT, my frame number is about 120 digits earlier than the engine.

DJM · Post by **DJM** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:38 pm

I think all CL77s had steel fenders even the first 14,000 or so which came with small brakes and steel fork bottoms.

I'm also pretty sure that ALL CL77s, even the small brake ones came with the rear muffler.

First issue were simply slip on so if the owners didn't like them they were slipped off again and junked. To stop the practice Honda later welded the muffler onto one pipe.

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