getting into 2nd gear

[LOUD MOUSE]

You may want to be sure the engine vent tube isn't pinched/closed and if ya clean the seal ya can push it into the shaft center with little effort (old or new) and it should/may hold. (only if it isn't hard as a rock). ...........lm

o.k. I'll check, but I think it's pretty close to 11:00. Also had a massive oil leak as the seal on the end of the clutch push rod came out all by it's self....That makes quite a mess!...At least I know I have good oil flow........A new one was still available from Honda. Thanks Ed.

[68Cb77]

Put the new seal in today...$3.00 from Honda! Yes, the old one was as hard as a rock! Also, the clutch rod was a bit rusty on the sprocket end, it may have been gripping the seal when it slid back out...
What are you meaning by checking the vent tube, Ed? They are clear, would you be thinking a build-up of pressure in the engine, forcing the seal out?
As far as shifting goes, I'm so used to getting a bike into neutral before you stop, I don't think I've noticed. ( I've still only driven this bike maybe 30 minutes) Most of the old bikes I've had were a little tricky getting into neutral when you're not moving. I've also noticed if you wind the motor up a bit more it seems to shift better. I don't think the gears line up quite as nice if you shift too soon.
Also, the shifter is definately postioned at 11:00, if not 10:30...<john>

[LOUD MOUSE]

Well ya have that fixed. If you think tis necessary to get inside ya may want to take a good look at the shift drum/fork/roller at the first-second shift area for wear. Common that these parts wear and cause problems with first to second gear shifts. .........lm

Put the new seal in today...$3.00 from Honda! Yes, the old one was as hard as a rock! Also, the clutch rod was a bit rusty on the sprocket end, it may have been gripping the seal when it slid back out...
What are you meaning by checking the vent tube, Ed? They are clear, would you be thinking a build-up of pressure in the engine, forcing the seal out?
As far as shifting goes, I'm so used to getting a bike into neutral before you stop, I don't think I've noticed. ( I've still only driven this bike maybe 30 minutes) Most of the old bikes I've had were a little tricky getting into neutral when you're not moving. I've also noticed if you wind the motor up a bit more it seems to shift better. I don't think the gears line up quite as nice if you shift too soon.
Also, the shifter is definately postioned at 11:00, if not 10:30...<john>

[68Cb77]

O.K. thanks...maybe a project for this winter, took it for a quick ride tonight, the leak is gone...but missed about 20% of the 1 to 2 shifts....Are these parts that wear out available?

[LOUD MOUSE]

Yep. I have them. ...........lm

O.K. thanks...maybe a project for this winter, took it for a quick ride tonight, the leak is gone...but missed about 20% of the 1 to 2 shifts....Are these parts that wear out available?

[e3steve]

If you think tis necessary to get inside ya may want to take a good look at the shift drum/fork/roller at the first-second shift area for wear. Common that these parts wear and cause problems with first to second gear shifts.

Good tip; thanks for that one, Ed! I was fortunate enough to win a complete, low-miles gear train, shift drum & selector forks on eBay a while back; like factory new! Even the dogs are completely unmarked, and not a mark on the clutch pushrod, which I'm elated about, as my temporary stainless one that I made is seriously mushrooming where the ball makes contact. Looking forward to pulling the motor and making it beautiful this winter..... I'll post any balls-ups, as I go, as 'how not to' experiences for the forum!

I'm really hoping I can achieve quality something close to Dennis Lodge's '61 CB72 (VJMC, UK), Wordman's cracking jobbo and Dutch Fred's beauty, all seen here in various postings.

I'm also intending to invest in a hydraulic bike lift & motor jack; my knees ain't quite as tolerant as they once were!