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Just a couple crappy pics of the stuff I bought Saturday. Finally got it home tonight to tinker with.

The cl77 stuff including the cb77 motor that was in it. I should be getting the front wheel and carbs soon to go with the purchase.









The cb77.







Some of the stuff is kinda rough, but I think I can put a couple bastardized bikes together from various parts.

Nice finds!

G

G-Man wrote:Nice finds!

G

Thanks. I'm hoping to start seriously putting something together possibly this weekend now that I have wheels to work with.

Anyone know what year frame this cl77 is? I found charts for both Dream and cb77, but couldn't find anything for the cl.

CL77-1017987

I'm also having a tough time getting one of these motors unstuck. Any tips out there? It's been soaking in PB Blaster since I got it, and in transmission fluid for who knows how long before that. I haven't even looked at the other one yet, but I assume it is in worse condition that the one I'm already farting with.

captain awesome wrote:Anyone know what year frame this cl77 is? I found charts for both Dream and cb77, but couldn't find anything for the cl.

CL77-1017987

Not sure exactly but my best guess would be 1966. Model year was commonly (but maybe not exclusively) based on date of sale. My bike is titled as a 1966 with serial number CL77-10270XX. Parts modifications and changes were accomplished in an ongoing manner by serial number. Bill Silver's book "Classic Honda Motorcycles" (2000 edition) says on page 24:
"The early 305 Scrambler models, CL77-1000001 to 1014495, were built as the original 1965 models and were equipped with CL72-style steel forks and the same "small" 7-inch single leading shoe (SLS) brakes. Bikes after CL77-1014495 had alloy fork sliders, 8-inch DLS brakes, similar to the CB77.........."

ahenthus wrote:

captain awesome wrote:Anyone know what year frame this cl77 is? I found charts for both Dream and cb77, but couldn't find anything for the cl.

CL77-1017987

Not sure exactly but my best guess would be 1966. Model year was commonly (but maybe not exclusively) based on date of sale. My bike is titled as a 1966 with serial number CL77-10270XX. Parts modifications and changes were accomplished in an ongoing manner by serial number. Bill Silver's book "Classic Honda Motorcycles" (2000 edition) says on page 24:
"The early 305 Scrambler models, CL77-1000001 to 1014495, were built as the original 1965 models and were equipped with CL72-style steel forks and the same "small" 7-inch single leading shoe (SLS) brakes. Bikes after CL77-1014495 had alloy fork sliders, 8-inch DLS brakes, similar to the CB77.........."

That's sounds about right. It has the alloy forks and DLS brakes or at least the rear is DLS. I'm still hunting down the front wheel and carbs for it.

Started tinkering on this one again. I took the front end off the cl77 frame I got out of my recent acquisition. The fork lowers are aluminum, and I really like the steering damper. I removed the old crusty lower boots off to find some amazingly clean surfaces. Not a speck of rust or corrosion! What's funny about all this is that the front end didn't have the lower axle caps installed, just the studs sitting in some dirt when I got it. It sat there for at least a couple years out in the elements covered by a tarp. A quick chase of a tap the studs were good to go. The caps for cb/cl350 are apparently similar, since they look the part and fit properly.













Unfortunately when I went to bolt the trees onto the cb frame it was obvious I need to do some adjustments to make it fit. It looks like the lower tree goes deeper than the cl so I'm going to do some math and see what will work. Maybe trimming up the lower part of the neck a bit? Luckily I have both frames to measure from, so I should be closer to a roller mock up status soon.